Astro Foorumi

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Your personality and the image you project to the world will undergo a dramatic change and transformation during Pluto's visit to your 1st House. This is the sector of Self. Although you normally enjoy socializing, things may change under Pluto's subtle influence. You may find you are less interested in being with people. You may even become something of a loner. The pressure involved in the transformation may make you seek solitude more often than in the past.

*Ylläoleva on ainakin totta minulla samoin allaoleva kappale.

This lengthy transit will develop your resourcefulness. You will gain fresh perspectives on your needs and desires. You want something different from relationships. Your new attitude may cause some established alliances to end because they no longer suit you. You aren't satisfied with superficial relationships and causal explanations for why things are the way they are. With so many changes occurring, you may feel as if you are constantly experiencing new beginnings.

At this time you will gradually reshape many aspects of your personality, and you will gradually get in touch with the forces that have shaped you and made you what you are. Getting in touch with yourself in this manner is especially helpful because it gives you greater control over the unconscious desires that in the past have surfaced as compulsions, urges and irrational impulses. You will gain greater control over the ways in which you project your personality to others, which will make your relationships more rewarding. However, en route to this desirable goal of self-improvement, you will have to meet certain challenges in order to make anything good come out of this period. If you strive to understand yourself well, you will be able to bring about a complete rebirth of energy and effectiveness in your life.

The type of people you attract now will reflect not just your ego but also the image you project. If you are drawing the wrong kind of people, it may be because you unwittingly project an aura of aloofness, promiscuity, a willingness to be abused or any of a hundred other wrong images. At times you may unconsciously send out a vibe that reveals a hidden need or weakness, and this makes you vulnerable to those who want to take advantage of you. Examine your words and behavior to see if there is anything you should change.

Fortunately, under the influence of this transit you will be more and more driven to seek out the inner dimensions of your life. You will be attracted to the mysteries and hidden aspects of life, which will make you very interested in your own and other people's inner workings. The purpose is directed towards a total regeneration of the self.

*Viileä ja seksikäs mutta ei oikeesti jaksa olla ihmisten kanssa? Aina voi yrittää..

You will experience important psychological changes during Pluto's thirteen year stay in your sector of the unconscious mind. This reflects the shadowy 12th house. During this transit you will deal with buried memories of the consequences of past mistakes which are painful, but must be resolved. This transit has many ramifications and prepares you for a complete rebuilding of the self. This transit will clear away old and hidden psychological garbage, which must happen to lay the groundwork for rebuilding.

Circumstances beyond your control may compel you to face unpleasant issues so you can conquer them and thereby gain inner strength. You have to master secret compulsions you previously chose to ignore. During this period you may spend more time than usual being alone or doing things away from the public view. This gives you the opportunity to uncover, examine and dissolve your bondage to secret fears and sorrows linked to the past. You now have the energy and emotional strength to break their power on you.

Pluto activates unconscious patterns so that they can no longer be ignored. Unconscious motivated actions can become extremely troublesome at this time. Although you intend to act one way in a situation, you suddenly find yourself acting quite differently. It is extremely important to understand these unconscious energies and be willing to confront them and the aspects of yourself that you have been taught are "bad." You cannot go through adulthood with behavior patterns that are clearly childish. You may relive events of your childhood that are affecting you now, and you should feel free to do inner child work with a therapist who can help you to release these patterns.

You may have alienated someone quite unconsciously and even quite blamelessly, who may try to work against you. Secret enemies may surface but they are not really unknown to you. You may have to confront your feelings of guilt about them and your only recourse is to bring these feelings out into the open. Secret enemies cannot work against you in the open, and if you are completely onset with them, they may have a change of heart towards you.

Whatever your situation, you will find it necessary to confront all your hidden and unpleasant aspects of life and of your past. By avoiding them you have created a situation in which they control you. Only by facing them honestly and without guilt can you clear them away and prevent them from having any further influence over you. This is the task of Pluto in the 12th House.

Eliminate self-imposed limitations and seek self-knowledge. Make this a period of psychological growth and spiritual insight. Read inspirational books and magazines. Cultivate your spiritual life. Give yourself credit for all your past achievements, large and small. Forgive yourself and others for past mistakes. Once these goals are accomplished, you are free to take control of your destiny and move forward constructively.
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Tunnistan 1. huoneen asiat, mutta myös 12. huoneen, kun Pluto onliikkunut Askendantin yli toistuvasti, viimeinen ohitus oli 12. päivä, mutta vaikutus kestänee vielä ensi kuun puoleen väliin.
 
En vastaa puheluihin, jos ei huvita -
kiertelen ja välttelen kylään kutsuja,
tuntuu ettei ole ihmisten kanssa mitään yhteistä (muilla on kaikki asiat paremmin  :buck2: )
sukellan mieluummin astrologisten opusten maailmaan ja unohdan kaiken muun.

Pluto spends the next thirteen years in your sector of wisdom, the 9th House. Circumstances beyond your control force you to face your prejudices and misconceptions about the world in which you live. You may have to deal with people from different races or cultures, whom you had previously looked down upon.

During this transit you will develop a hatred for hypocrisy. You will be attracted to foreign cultures, education, religion, metaphysics, and spiritual interests. You may teach a special skill or guide others in spiritual matters. You may hold a prominent position in a class or religious group. Some of you can earn a college education, while others will develop valuable new skills. Many will experience a complete spiritual rebirth. Some may convert to a different faith. If transiting Pluto forms an adverse aspect (square or opposition) to one of your natal planets, you may become a fanatic and try to win everyone over to your way of thinking. Your convictions will help you persuade others of what you have learned, but give them a chance to experience and find their own views as well.

Your view of the world around you will change considerably because crises in your life will show you the invalidity of your former views. Your ability to see and understand the world and your wisdom in handling it will grow and deepen. This will help you to mature and become a far better human being. There is no need to fear this transit in any way and it will prepare you for your next phase when Pluto transits your tenth house of career and life goals.

This will be a period of dramatic intellectual growth. It is a time to broaden your perspective and expand your horizons. Use this power period to find ways to move beyond your own limitations and reach for amazing new possibilities. Give yourself credit for all of your past achievements. Move up and ahead with hope, determination and confidence.   ET SILLEEN  ;)

Onnea vaan meille kaikille! Mikähän sitten tosiaan meneekään Joukkariin?  :smitten: :-*

Mielenkiintoinen saitti! Ravulle sanottiin näin/olen korostanut kohdat jotka kuulostavat tutuilta:

Health and karmic obligations are emphasized until 2008, while transiting Pluto occupies your 6th House. This transit's impact is most likely to feel like a fresh interest in work, health, and deeply held emotional attachments, such as your original family members. If you are unhappy with your job or position in life, you can change the situation during this lengthy transit. You must be patient, however, for Pluto transits tend to work themselves out in a gradual way.

Take enough time to identify your hidden needs and strengthen them. Think about your undeveloped potential. Evaluate your usual methods of handling obligations. If you feel guilty about failing to satisfy commitments in the past, figure out ways to improve your performance.

You can expect great changes in your work, possibly a complete change in job or career. There may be a difficult period of tension, because Pluto creates tension with people in your job, particularly bosses. You may be compelled to look elsewhere for work even if you don't want to. If this kind of tension arises, don't fight it as it is probably best to get another job. You may go from one job to another as you search for the proper situation and it may take several years to find it. As Pluto gets near the end of this transit, all should fall into place.

If pets are important to you, you may lose an animal or get new ones during this period. You may develop a new fondness for animals and bring a new pet into your life.
If you have ignored your health or have abused your body and mind in recent years, situations may arise which force you to pay attention to your physical or emotional needs. If you have become a work-a-holic health problems may develop to compel you to change jobs, slow down or even quit working. For years you may have had a physical condition that you haven't considered worth attending to, but now it may reach a critical point and you must do something about it. At its most severs, this transit could bring a complete physical breakdown, but only if you have neglected your health needs over a long period of time.

This transit can indicate a complete physical transformation and regeneration. If you adapt a careful physical regimen now you can rebuild your body's strength and vitality. Examine your diet, exercise program and perhaps take up yoga or a similar physical-spiritual balance program. Remain open to new ideas and know that you can achieve physical and spiritual healing through the remainder of this century and well into the next one.

Työturbulenssi ja -väsymys osuivat nappiin. Olen vaihtanut vsta -95 työpaikkoja kuin paitaa, osittain pakon sanelemana. Työssäjaksaminen on ollut ykkösteema, välillä on tuntunut ettei elämässä muuta ole ollutkaan kuin työ työ ja työ. Pomot ovat olleet pääosin jees, vain yksi inhoke mahtui mukaan.

Jännä juttu myös tuo lemmikkieläinasia. Otimme vuosi sitten perheeseemme ihanan pikkulemmikin, koiran. Se on antanut paljon iloa! :smitten:

Totta, seitsemäs työpaikka menossa tänä vuonna laskujen mukaan.. välillä visiittejä yrityksiin, firmoihin jossa sukulaisia johtajina..  :coolsmiley: :coolsmiley: :angel: Ainakin isoisän kautta 2 kissanpentua saapunut lähipiiriin..

Scorpio: October 21 - November 20


Living standards and finances are emphasized by Pluto's transit of your 2nd House. This house represents your values and personal income. The source of your income is likely to change during this transit. Some of you may gain a great deal of money or other valuable possessions, while others may lose a lot. A very lucky Scorpio may win a lottery of a considerable size.

Pitää jatkaa siis lottoamista...   :P

This process includes major changes in your financial picture over the next several years. The most upsetting aspect of this change is that quite frequently it begins with a breakdown phase, in which you have to get along with much less. You may have a cut back in business or difficulty borrowing money. You may have to change the source of your income and experience less income during the changeover. If you own property, you may have to invest in modernization or considerable repairs and maintenance. Your material base will change and it will be hard to depend upon your accustomed income.

Tulot ovat vaihdelleet ja paikat ovat vaihdelleet, koska olin 95 lukiossa ja sen jälkeen olen opiskellut lisää, ollut töissä ja välillä työttömänä..  
You are by no means doomed to poverty, however. This is a temporary phase that will pass as soon as the breakdown phase is finished. Don't hold on to the old, but allow it to leave, which will speed up the arrival of new beginnings and a new phase.

 :knuppel2: Parasta olisi..  

Your ideals and priorities are in the spotlight during this transit. You will learn what truly matters most to you and your happiness. Forces beyond your control will have you examine your values and the way you define yourself. If you base your self-worth on money or possessions, you may lose them and have to rethink your priorities. Events will teach you that love, honor, family and good health are far more precious that wealth or material gain. Only our inner values have significance and are within our total control.

Your will to survive is extremely strong. It gradually deepens your awareness, allowing new values and more effective ways of relating to emerge. Hidden motives, intentions and emotional agendas come into play during crises and personal confrontations. Honesty's bright light will reveal to you some harsh truths about yourself and will force you to face emotional reality and the rules of life. Ignore temptations to use dishonest means or coercive tactics in business or personal affairs, for that would be sure to have some dire consequences.

Pitää paikkaansa, työpaikkoja ollu useita, ehkä kylläkin ihan omasta halustani olla freelanser....ja uupuminen pitää paikkaansa myös. Kelju pomo ollu viimesessä paikassa.
Me hankimme myös neljä vuotta sitten koirulin, todella rakas.
Hmmm ja lopussakin oli ravulle ihan osuvaa asiaa.

Pisces: February 19 - March 19
Your ambitions undergo a dramatic change during the period 1995 - 2008, while Pluto slowly tours your sector of achievement and life outside the family unit. The planet energizes your 10th House, which stands on your mid-heaven at the top of your birth chart. Your will power will increase and you will feel a desire to succeed in your area of expertise. Even if you were shy in the past, this transit will fuel your desire to prove what you can do. You want your accomplishments to be recognized and your talents to be appreciated.

This is a most important time of your life, for you will try to achieve more now than you ever have before. You want to make the greatest possible mark upon the world, and now is the time for you to do it. You need to be focused on who you are and what your life is about. Pluto gives you the power to achieve your life goals and the insight to determine what they are. Consequently, you become secure and knowing yourself, you create the opportunity for greater success, as long as you heed certain warnings. If you do not know your goals, you will probably change your path. You may change jobs often and spend several years feeling quite lost until you find out what you are supposed to be doing.

This transit can bring major, irrevocable changes in your personal reputation. You may become involved with power struggles or job related intrigues. Business contacts with people of great wealth or influence can be established at this time. You're almost sure to be involved with loans, taxes, insurance, inheritances, joint finances, corporate money or secret projects. If transiting Pluto makes adverse aspects to your natal planets you may suffer a reversal of fortune or develop a power complex. Avoid wreaking havoc or bending the standards of ethics with this transit. Pluto's energies are too powerful to play games with. Play fair, according to the rules, don't take shortcuts and continue to pursue your goals.

You could find yourself in situations which force you to deal with authority figures or to manage business interests; tasks you may previously considered too complicated to tackle. If you encounter difficult circumstances, have confidence in your ability. The important thing is not to become discouraged. You will undergo considerable changes during this transit and even feel as if you have become a different person, which is probably true. Take your time and allow your inner direction to help you find yourself. Pluto's presence in your 10th house indicates that you possess the inner resources and emotional strength to deal with these changes during this empowered time.


.....siis miten niin huoneessa 10?  :idiot2: :idiot2:
No se on kyllä totta että työpaikkoja olen vaihdellut tiukkaan tahtiin ja polulta toiselle on tullut hypittyä monessakin asiassa..

Ja niinpä niin..pitäs muistaa välillä sekin totuus että "rohkea rokan syö" :D :D

Käsittääkseni nämä astrologit, jotka kirjoittelevat merkkikohtaisia ennusteita, katsovat huonejaon aina kyseisen merkin näkökulmasta, karkealla merkki per huone -jaolla. Tässä esim. Kalojen merkin on katsottu edustavan huonetta 1. (koska horoskooppi on Kaloille) ja siitä perspektiivistä katsottuna Jousimies on 10. merkki ja 10. huone.

Minullekin tuo työjuttu tosin osuu ihan senkin takia, koska aurinkoni on ykkösessä ja MC:ni Jousimiehessä ja Pluto on oikeasti syntymäkartallakin katsottuna seilannut tuolla kympissä viime ajat. En tosin ole vaihtanut työpaikkaa, mutta olen kyseenalaistanut sen ja parhaillaan opiskelen aivan muuta alaa työn ohessa. :) Valtasuhteet ja ryhmädynamiikka ovat Jouskari-työpaikallani olleet muutoksen alla viime vuodet.

 :rapu: Hassua, viime vuonna tuli otettua uusi lemmikki, eikä ollut itse suunniteltua, vaan se "kulkeutui" meille. Rakastettu kuitenkin.  :smitten:
Työelämä on ollut todella vaihtelevaa.
Mitä enemmän näihin perehtyy, sitä enemmän yllättyy ja viisastuu.

Jaaha, enpä nyt pysy kärryillä, ai että pluto jouskarissa jne..... ???

Minulla on oikein vanha horoskooppikirja vuodelta 1969 ja siellä mainitaan että kalojen huone on 12 ja jouskareitten huone 9

MetalLady, olet ihan oikeassa. Taisin kuitenkin nähtävästi kirjoittaa hieman epäselvästi, joten yritän vielä selventää mitä tuossa tarkoitin. :)

Huoneillahan on omat merkkinsä ja hallitsijansa, alkaen ykköshuoneesta ja Oinaasta, päättyen 12. huoneeseen ja Kaloihin. Kuitenkin henkilökohtaisilla kartoilla se, mihin huoneiden kärjet osuvat, riippuu täysin syntymähetkestä ja syntymäpaikasta. Näin ollen kaikilla meillä ei suinkaan ykköshuoneen kärki osu Oinaan tai 12. huone Kalojen merkkiin, ja mm. juuri tämä seikka tekee kartoistamme yksilöllisiä.

Kuukausihoroskooppien laatijat eivät kuitenkaan voi mitenkään ottaa huomioon esim. kaikkien Kalojen yksilöllisiä karttoja, joten heidän on pakko lähteä liikkeelle yleistyspohjalta. Mutta miten tehdä yleispätevä horoskooppi kaikille Kaloille? Horoskooppien laatijat varmaankin käyttävät erilaisia menetelmiä astrologiaan perehtyneisyyden asteestaan riippuen (tai sitten vetävät tekstit hihasta kuten esim. iltalehdissä), mutta nimenomaan tuosta Lemniskatan laittamasta tekstinpätkästä päättelin, että siinä ainakin tekijä on hyvin todennäköisesti tehnyt "yleispätevän kartan" kaikille Kalat-merkkisille siten, että on sijoittanut auringon huoneeseen yksi. Tämä tuntuisi loogiselta, koska ykköshuone on minuuden ja persoonallisuuden huone.

Koska kaikkien Kalojen syntymäaikoja ei edelleenkään voida ottaa yhtä aikaa huomioon, ei huonejärjestelmistäkään (kuten Placidus) ole kartan teossa varsinaista hyötyä. Siispä tällainen yleispätevä kartta on kätevintä tehdä merkki per huone -systeemillä. Kaikkien Kalojen kakkoshuone vastaisi täten Oinaan merkkiä, kolmoshuone Härän merkkiä jne...ja kymmenennen huoneen kohdalle osuisi näin Jousimies. Siispä kun Pluto liikkuu Jousimiehessä, sen katsotaan yleistetysti liikkuvan "kaikkien Kalojen 10. huoneessa", jos halutaan tehdä yleispätevä horoskooppi. Omalla, yksilöllisellä syntymäkartalla voi transitoiva Pluto tietenkin osua mihin huoneeseen tahansa, riippuen täysin oman kartan huoneiden kärjistä (ja tietysti myös kartan teossa käytetystä huonejärjestelmästä). Samalla systeemillä tietenkin, jos halutaan tehdä yleishoroskooppi kaikille Jouskareille, laitetaan aurinko ykköshuoneeseen & Jousimieheen. Siitä laskien kaikkien Jouskareiden 2. huone olisi Kauriissa, 3. huone Vesimiehessä jne. Pluto liikkuisi siis "kaikkien Jouskareiden" ykköshuoneessa juuri nyt, Neptunus 3. huoneessa (koska on nyt Vesimiehessä) jne.

Jos oma kartta siis sattuu osumaan yksiin tuon merkki per huone -systeemin kanssa, se selittäisi, miksi jotkut yleispätevätkin horoskoopit tuntuvat osuvan hämmästyttävän oikeaan. :) Joku voi toki vielä vahvistaa tai hylätä tämän oletukseni, oikeasti en 100 % varmasti tiedä, miltä pohjalta astrologit noita yleishoroskooppejaan tekevät.

Kiitos tuosta selvennyksestä, voihan olla että minä ite en sun kirjoitusta älynnyt. Olenpa taas viisaampi. :)

Kuka ymmartaa Pluto Leijonassa ja 12 huoneessa?
Ainoa, minka ymmarsin on etta vanhat tavat voivat jaada pois-ja se on totta-tupakanpoltto alkaa olla menneen talven lumia.
Se tuntuu jotenkin liian mahtipontiselta meikalaiselle?

Sagittarius: November 21 - December 20


Your personality and the image you project to the world will undergo a dramatic change and transformation during Pluto's visit to your 1st House. This is the sector of Self. Although you normally enjoy socializing, things may change under Pluto's subtle influence. You may find you are less interested in being with people. You may even become something of a loner. The pressure involved in the transformation may make you seek solitude more often than in the past.

This lengthy transit will develop your resourcefulness. You will gain fresh perspectives on your needs and desires. You want something different from relationships. Your new attitude may cause some established alliances to end because they no longer suit you. You aren't satisfied with superficial relationships and causal explanations for why things are the way they are. With so many changes occurring, you may feel as if you are constantly experiencing new beginnings.

At this time you will gradually reshape many aspects of your personality, and you will gradually get in touch with the forces that have shaped you and made you what you are. Getting in touch with yourself in this manner is especially helpful because it gives you greater control over the unconscious desires that in the past have surfaced as compulsions, urges and irrational impulses. You will gain greater control over the ways in which you project your personality to others, which will make your relationships more rewarding. However, en route to this desirable goal of self-improvement, you will have to meet certain challenges in order to make anything good come out of this period. If you strive to understand yourself well, you will be able to bring about a complete rebirth of energy and effectiveness in your life.

The type of people you attract now will reflect not just your ego but also the image you project. If you are drawing the wrong kind of people, it may be because you unwittingly project an aura of aloofness, promiscuity, a willingness to be abused or any of a hundred other wrong images. At times you may unconsciously send out a vibe that reveals a hidden need or weakness, and this makes you vulnerable to those who want to take advantage of you. Examine your words and behavior to see if there is anything you should change.

Fortunately, under the influence of this transit you will be more and more driven to seek out the inner dimensions of your life. You will be attracted to the mysteries and hidden aspects of life, which will make you very interested in your own and other people's inner workings. The purpose is directed towards a total regeneration of the self.

Erittäin mielenkiintoinen asia! Olen nimittäin huomannut, että elämässäni on alkanut jonkinlainen "uuden alku", tuntuu siltä, että joku on muuttunut ihan totaalisesti. Nimittäin olen todella alkanut kaipaamaan omaa rauhaa, haluan olla välillä ihan itsekseni ja miettiä asioita kaikessa rauhassa.. Ja tosiaan, meikäläisen avoliitossa on nyt joku tämmöinen miettimisvaihe (mies ei tosin tiedä tästä), olen välillä miettinyt, jatkuuko tämä suhde hamaan hautaan asti vai kannattaako lähteä omille teille.. Olen ollut viime aikoina paljon ulkona kavereiden kanssa, ilman miestä ja elämässä on muutenkin uusi alku meneillään: aloitin syksyllä uudessa koulussa ja nyt olen miettinyt, mitä haluan elämältäni. Ja tähän liittyy kaikki työasiat, kaverisuhteet ja myös oma avoliittoni, voisin sanoa, että avoliittooni liittyen on tapahtunut viime aikoina aika paljon hämmentäviä asioita ja olen aika sekaisin tällä hetkellä..

Tuleva jakso kuulostaa pelottavalta, en tiedä, täytyykö voittaa vastukset, että kaikki jatkuu ennallaan vai tuleeko elämäni muuttumaan aivan totaalisesti. Mutta sen tiedän, että joku muutosjakso on aluillaan ja paljon tulee tapahtumaan!

Astrodienst näyttää hassusti noita juttuja, esim ensin oli vain Jupiterin konjunktiot näkösällä ja Saturn. neliöt. Sitten tulikin äkkiä Pluton neliö Uranukseen 1-2008 asti. Samalla  :uranus: :aspect_squ: :kuu:.

Olen oppinut Plutolta ennen kaikkea puolustautumista.

Mieltäni ei melkein voi enää pahoittaa, koska tosiaankin palautan kaikille ilkeyden takaisin. En jää pitkäksi aikaa miettimään mitä tämä on, vaan pidän mielialani korkealla, se on vähän kuin panssari johon ei tikarit uppoa enää. Eihän se lähettäjälle niin mukavaa ole kokea omat iskunsa, mutta tämä on ehkä se Iso opetus.

Muusta en tiedä. Erityisesti plutolaiset ovat olleet opettamassa.

Siis tunnen monia joiden kanssa tätä ei tarvitse tehdä, mutta kun tarvitsee. Tilanteista voi myös poistua.  :coolsmiley: Kaiken ei tarvitse kiinnostaa.  :laugh:

kaivanee alitajunnasta väkivalloin ulos sellaiset asiat joita on pidetty piilossa itseltä? paljastaa totuuden ja rikkoo vääränlaiset valtasuhteet?

Tuli äsken mieleen että plutolaiset eivät ehkä ole ONNELLISIA jos eivät saa piikitellä, olenpa ymmärtänyt heitä väärin. Olen suuttunut tms. Mutta joka tapauksessa paras heittää piikkejä takaisin, niin ovat onnellisia, eihän onnea saa toisilta pois viedä.  ;D :P

Although you may prefer a fun-filled day of play, it's just not likely to happen that way. There may be a low-level angst coming from an inner voice reminding you that you have unfinished work to do. You cannot sidestep what's on your plate now, so deal with your responsibilities methodically. Afterwards, you'll be able to more easily live in the moment.

Taurus: April 21 - May 20

Dynamic Pluto transits your 8th House until December 2008. This sector represents intimacy, sexuality and financial benefits gained through others. Circumstances compel you to deal with confidential matters which you have been choosing to ignore.

Crisis are likely to occur during this transit because the 8th House represents a test of your inner strength. You may have to deal with emotional trauma in one or more of these forms:

# You may be betrayed or experience severe violations of trust.
# You may feel intensely used or manipulated by others.
# You may lose someone close.
# You may be sexually violated or feel someone is taking sexual advantage of you.
# You may lose the support, emotional or financial, of those people you love and trust.
# One or more intimate relationships may end.

During this transit the issues of major transformation, death, rebirth and regeneration will become more significant in your life. Your life may not be in any great danger, but you will experience deaths of people around you that will have a very important effect on you. Such a death may radically change your life circumstances in some way or force a reflection within you about the nature and meaning of your own life. Your concerns about death and transformation will become quite deep during this transit.

During this stressful period, you have to become resourceful and find your way out of sorrow or disappointment. You learn that you cannot depend on others for emotional support or financial aid. You are forced to be completely self reliant and experience the strength of your personal self-esteem. You will come to understand that you can survive any disaster and triumph over loss. If you use this transit wisely, at the end of it you will emerge a wiser, more self-reliant person.

On an entirely different level, this transit can affect possessions and resources held jointly with others, such as a spouse, family or corporate finances. A major change may occur in your life through one of these sources. This is not a good time to ask for a loan because you may be put very much under someone else's control.

This is also a transit for one to receive a significant inheritance or sudden win. This should be supported by other transits in your Natal chart.

Ei kuulosta kovin lupaavalta  :(

En ottaisi kovin vakavasti. Koska se muuten poistuu Joukkarista? Miltä tuntuu 2008 lopulla? Onko valta-asiasta opittu ainakin oman elämän hallinta?

Aries: March 20 - April 20

Pluto spends the next thirteen years in your sector of wisdom, the 9th House. Circumstances beyond your control force you to face your prejudices and misconceptions about the world in which you live. You may have to deal with people from different races or cultures, whom you had previously looked down upon.

During this transit you will develop a hatred for hypocrisy. You will be attracted to foreign cultures, education, religion, metaphysics, and spiritual interests. You may teach a special skill or guide others in spiritual matters. You may hold a prominent position in a class or religious group. Some of you can earn a college education, while others will develop valuable new skills. Many will experience a complete spiritual rebirth. Some may convert to a different faith. If transiting Pluto forms an adverse aspect (square or opposition) to one of your natal planets, you may become a fanatic and try to win everyone over to your way of thinking. Your convictions will help you persuade others of what you have learned, but give them a chance to experience and find their own views as well.

Your view of the world around you will change considerably because crises in your life will show you the invalidity of your former views. Your ability to see and understand the world and your wisdom in handling it will grow and deepen. This will help you to mature and become a far better human being. There is no need to fear this transit in any way and it will prepare you for your next phase when Pluto transits your tenth house of career and life goals.

This will be a period of dramatic intellectual growth. It is a time to broaden your perspective and expand your horizons. Use this power period to find ways to move beyond your own limitations and reach for amazing new possibilities. Give yourself credit for all of your past achievements. Move up and ahead with hope, determination and confidence.

Taurus: April 21 - May 20

Dynamic Pluto transits your 8th House until December 2008. This sector represents intimacy, sexuality and financial benefits gained through others. Circumstances compel you to deal with confidential matters which you have been choosing to ignore.

Crisis are likely to occur during this transit because the 8th House represents a test of your inner strength. You may have to deal with emotional trauma in one or more of these forms:

# You may be betrayed or experience severe violations of trust.

# You may feel intensely used or manipulated by others.

# You may lose someone close.

# You may be sexually violated or feel someone is taking sexual advantage of you.

# You may lose the support, emotional or financial, of those people you love and trust.

# One or more intimate relationships may end.

During this transit the issues of major transformation, death, rebirth and regeneration will become more significant in your life. Your life may not be in any great danger, but you will experience deaths of people around you that will have a very important effect on you. Such a death may radically change your life circumstances in some way or force a reflection within you about the nature and meaning of your own life. Your concerns about death and transformation will become quite deep during this transit.

During this stressful period, you have to become resourceful and find your way out of sorrow or disappointment. You learn that you cannot depend on others for emotional support or financial aid. You are forced to be completely self reliant and experience the strength of your personal self-esteem. You will come to understand that you can survive any disaster and triumph over loss. If you use this transit wisely, at the end of it you will emerge a wiser, more self-reliant person.

On an entirely different level, this transit can affect possessions and resources held jointly with others, such as a spouse, family or corporate finances. A major change may occur in your life through one of these sources. This is not a good time to ask for a loan because you may be put very much under someone else's control.

This is also a transit for one to receive a significant inheritance or sudden win. This should be supported by other transits in your Natal chart.

Oman osuuteni ymmärrän ja innolla odotan, vaikka mikään huviretki ei taida olla tiedossa... alkuun on jo päästy  :D Tuota punaiseksi värjättyä aluetta hieman mietinkin ja kysyisin apuja... siis miten katson tuon?
Samoin otin talteen Härälle vaikutukset, eipä taida kultanikaan helpolla päästä... kuhan nyt yhdessä edes läpi mentäs  :angel:

Ahaa.. onhan tuo saattanut vaikuttaa minuunkin! Siis Pluto saa haluamaan hallintaa ja sitten tietty skorpparit pistää. Hassu soppa.  Miten tämä minuun liittyy..  :coolsmiley:

Sagittarius: November 21 - December 20


Your personality and the image you project to the world will undergo a dramatic change and transformation during Pluto's visit to your 1st House. This is the sector of Self. Although you normally enjoy socializing, things may change under Pluto's subtle influence. You may find you are less interested in being with people. You may even become something of a loner. The pressure involved in the transformation may make you seek solitude more often than in the past.

This lengthy transit will develop your resourcefulness. You will gain fresh perspectives on your needs and desires. You want something different from relationships. Your new attitude may cause some established alliances to end because they no longer suit you. You aren't satisfied with superficial relationships and causal explanations for why things are the way they are. With so many changes occurring, you may feel as if you are constantly experiencing new beginnings.

At this time you will gradually reshape many aspects of your personality, and you will gradually get in touch with the forces that have shaped you and made you what you are. Getting in touch with yourself in this manner is especially helpful because it gives you greater control over the unconscious desires that in the past have surfaced as compulsions, urges and irrational impulses. You will gain greater control over the ways in which you project your personality to others, which will make your relationships more rewarding. However, en route to this desirable goal of self-improvement, you will have to meet certain challenges in order to make anything good come out of this period. If you strive to understand yourself well, you will be able to bring about a complete rebirth of energy and effectiveness in your life.

The type of people you attract now will reflect not just your ego but also the image you project. If you are drawing the wrong kind of people, it may be because you unwittingly project an aura of aloofness, promiscuity, a willingness to be abused or any of a hundred other wrong images. At times you may unconsciously send out a vibe that reveals a hidden need or weakness, and this makes you vulnerable to those who want to take advantage of you. Examine your words and behavior to see if there is anything you should change.

Fortunately, under the influence of this transit you will be more and more driven to seek out the inner dimensions of your life. You will be attracted to the mysteries and hidden aspects of life, which will make you very interested in your own and other people's inner workings. The purpose is directed towards a total regeneration of the self.

KARMAN maksuja. Olinkin ajatellut että 2008 lopulla tilanne on aika eri tunnetasolla ja taloudellisesti, vihdoin.

On November 10th, 1995, Pluto, the planet of transformation, leaves Scorpio and settles down for a long 13 1/2 year stay in Sagittarius, where it will remain until December 2008. Pluto represents the masses, dramatic change, deep karmic paybacks, death and rebirth. The Fire Sign Sagittarius represents expansion, luck, independence, higher knowledge, technology, foreign lands and blunt truth. The cosmos will be telling us that it is time to reconstruct our way of thinking.

Transits of Pluto bring out the best and the deepest worst in you. If you can use the transits constructively you will feel a strong desire to do something with your life. If you misuse the energies, you may act out of your darkest desires. This transit is a generation transit and brings important changes in perspective to society which will have long-lasting effects. Pluto's presence in whatever house in your chart will show you where the power struggles are in that area of your life. When the planet transits an angular house (First, Fourth, Seventh, Tenth) relationships often end. When Pluto transits the first or seventh house, you may have a brush with death.


Wherever this mystic, outer planet appears, you are capable of wielding enormous power. Without being consciously aware of your motivations, you try to prevail in affairs ruled by that chart sector. When Pluto transits your Seventh House, for instance, you may transform your close relationships and make them more satisfying and productive. You also may try to dominate relationships or cling to one that is detrimental to you or your mate.


Pluto represents the part of you that likes to experience intense situations and represents power. It symbolizes obsession, the feeling of being driven by a force stronger than you can control, and an urge so compelling that you have no choice but to give into it, regardless of the cost. As with all transits, you can use this in a positive or negative way. Your choices will determine the ultimate outcome.

 :ojaa että rohkeudella vaan eteenpäin oinaat, vaikka kuinka tulis sarville..onhan siinä kyllä hullun-homman maku..
Paikkansa kyllä piti toi kohta että moni "uudestisyntyy" tai vaihtaa uskontoa.
Loppus jo *pöks*  :) >:(

Leo: July 20 - August 21

Pluto has settled down for a long stay in your pleasure zone, the 5th House. During the next thirteen years your thinking on things you do for fun, vacations and pleasure will undergo a dramatic change. You will seek new ways to develop and increase your joy for living. Real children and the "children" produced by your mind, such as painting you have created or books you have written, gain importance. Creative activities are emphasized. The impact of this transit may have many consequences, because the fifth house rules several areas of your life.

If you have children, this is likely to be a fateful period in your life with them. The nature of this is not easy to pin down, but it's not necessarily bad. For example, you may have to work harder and develop a new creative talent to educate your child. Your relationship with your children is now entering a new phase where everything you do for them will have a powerful effect on them later. You may create tension as you apply too much pressure upon them to change in some way, and a power struggle begins. During this time it would not be wise to take any unnecessary risks with your children's health.

The fifth house is the house of love affairs. This is the early stages of a relationship between two people who enjoy being together, as opposed to a serious commitment. This is likely to feel fated and become a heavy, very emotional and intense relationship. Also, be wary of a love relationship with someone whom you know is not good for you as a partner. Your mind may be playing tricks on you. A current relationship will become very intense at this time and go through a complete transformation. If a relationship that is in trouble survives this time, it will last forever.

It is time to enjoy yourself and find fresh ways to enjoy your emotions. If you have been waiting for a long time to develop hobbies or special interests, this period of time will provide the energy to express yourself. Showing your affection and generosity to children and loved ones can bring great satisfaction.

The primary traps you have to avoid are laziness and overindulgence. A combination of the two can be lethal to your personal growth. Be sure your ego doesn't expand beyond reasonable proportions, for a snobbish or domineering attitude will only alienate the very people you hope to impress. Be daring and brave! Take the risk of showing your creativity and individuality. This is the pathway to your ultimate success.

Ainakin askendentin puolesta ois luvassa kivempaa :) mikäs siinä jos uusia harrastuksia ois tiedossa, olen kyllä huomannut että olen alkanut touhuamaan enemmän luovien juttujen parissa.

Minulla Pluto on nyt ja tulevaisuudessa 6. huoneessa jouskarissa/kauriissa ja kamalinta oli se, että myös AP-kartalle pluto osui 6. huoneeseen  :buck2: ensi vuonna onneksi 2. huoneessa AP_kartalla tosin eipä hurraamista jos raha-asiat menevät perikatoon...

Nikulalta.

PLUTO JOUSIMIEHESSÄ NYT - TEEMOJA JA KEHITYSLINJOJA
Jos yrittää yleistää mitä esim. neljä aikaisempaa Pluto Jousimiehessä - sykliä maailman (Euroopan) historiassa ovat merkinneet, joudutaan ahtaalle. Kaikki neljä aikakautta ovat hyvin erilaisia sekä ulkoisesti aineellisen että henkisen elämän tasoilla. Mutta siitä huolimatta kukaan ei kiellä yrittämästä, joten Pluto Jousimiehessä voi 1996-2009 tuoda näkyviin jotain näistä:
·   Yksinkertaisin ennustus, joka voidaan tehdä Pluton vaikutuksesta Jousimiehessä on se että siirrytään ajattelemasta muutakin kuin konkreettista hallintaa taloudellisin keinoin (edeltävä merkki oli Skorpioni). Aletaan puhua asioista, arvoista, perusajatuksista, jotka säätelevät ihmisten tietoisuutta.
·   Pyritään suurempaan yhtenäisyyteen niin aineellisessa kulttuurissa, politiikassa kuin hengen viljelyssä. Yhtenäisyyttä ei luoda aina mukavin keinoin vaan myös hyvin häikäilemättömästi. Yhten äisyyden pakko toteutuu taloudellisesti ensin ja sitten tulevat muut poliittiset järjestelyt. Sisäisesti yksilötasolla yhtenäisyyttä lisää tietoverkkojen kehitys, joka mahdollistaa yhteydenpidon Internetin kaltaisten verkostojen kautta ympäri maailman.
·   Aika on rajoja ylittävää: 1200-luvulla ulkomaiset vaikutteet olivat lähinnä vihamielisiä (mongolit), 1500-luvulla löytöretkeiltiin ja hankittiin kauppaetuja siirtomaista, 1700-luvulla sodittiin yhä siirtomaissa ja järjesteltiin voimasuhteita kauppakunnissa. 1996-2008 Pluto Jousimiehessä jatkaa samaa teemaa: johtavat maat joutuvat yhdistämään voimiaan yhteisen edun nimissä. Laajentuminen voi koskea kauppasuhteita (EU- Hansa-kaupan moderni jatke), teknis-taloudellista yhteistyötä ja pysyvien avaruusasemien rakentamista. Kolonialismi voi vaihtaa muotoa, mutta sitä tulee olemaan. Kulttuurien kohtaamisesta syntyy sekä jännitteitä että maailmanlaajuista yhteistyötä. Mutta tärkeysjärjestys tuskin muuttuu: ensin tulee kaupallinen yhteistyö (edut) yhdessä sotilaallisten liittojen kanssa (turvallisuus) ja sitten vasta kulttuurien vuorovaikutus (henkisen pääoman vaihto).  ·   Pluto Jousimiehessä näyttää olevan häikäilemätt ömien vallankäyttäjien aikaa. Keskeiset johtajat ovat voimakkaita, maanisia, suuria unelmia ja visioita hautovia ja potentiaalisesti tuhoavia ihmisiä. Vallan- ja rahankäytön tuhlailevuus voi nousta edelleen huippua kohti (vaikka Pluto Skorpionissa oli jo kapitalistista ahnehtimista täynnä). Virallisten vallankäyttäjien rinnalla voi esiintyä näkymätt ömiä voimia (johtajien rakastajattaria, taloudellisia painostusjoukkoja, mafiosoja).
·   Paljastuksia ja skandaaleja tulee esiin sekä asioista että ihmisistä. Kulttuurimme hellimät "perimmäiset käsitykset" ja niiden pohjalla olevat kollektiivisen piilotajunnan arkkityypit rapisevat. Kristinuskoa koskevat opilliset kiistat ja paljastukset saattavat johtaa dogmien murenemiseen. Historiallinen tutkimus kaivaa esiin epämieluisia totuuksia ja faktoja, jotka voivat järkyttää perinteitä. 1500-luvulla esitettiin kritiikki ä raamatun kieliasusta (Erasmus), 1700-luvulla raamatun merkityksistä (esim. Voltaire) ja 2000-luvulla tullaan vahvistamaan käsitystä siitä, että raamattu on opillisesti tiettyjen tarkoitusperien muokkaama kirja.  ·   Tieteessä ja ajattelussa ei todennäköisesti löydetä mit ään mullistavaa, yksityiskohtaista uutta. Tänä päivänä jo näkyvät linjat tulevat jatkumaan: geeniteknologiaa, ihmisen perimän manipulointia, biotekniikkaa, tiedonvälitykseen liittyviä kehitelmiä ilmaantuu vuorenvarmasti. Keinotodellisuus, virtuaalisuus, voi tulla kaupalliselle asteelle kuten virallisesti ennakoidaan. Mutta näiden lisäksi menneet syklit korostavat vankkaa asenteellista valistustyötä ja kollektiiviin uppoavien asenteiden ja trendien levittämistä. Polemiikkia, kiihtynyttä keskustelua käydään elämän perusteista ja ajattelun perusmalleista. Koska Uranus on tulevina vuosina kuutiossa Plutoon Vesimiehestä, tämä voi muuntaa tilannetta ja aktivoida tieteellis-teknologista eläm än hallintaa entistä enemmän. Tässä suhteessa uudelleeneletä än kausi valistusajan kausi, jolloin Uranus oli myös Vesimiehessä (1745-1752) ja Pluto Jousimiehessä (1749-1763). Tieteen kehitys ei mitenkään automaattisesti tue raja-alueiden (esim. astrologian) hyväksymistä osaksi kulttuuriamme. On muistettava että Uranus/Pluto -aspekti voi saada myös äärimmäisen epäilevän luonteen (suomalaisista skeptikoista Nils Mustelinilla ja S. Albert Kivisellä on Uranuksen ja Pluton neliö kartoillaan - sukupolvi 1930-34). Koska nykyinen aspekti on kuitenkin kuutio, yhteistyötä ja rakentavaa mielipiteiden vaihtoa establishmentin ja marginalian kesken lisätään.
·   Aika voi alleviivata kansallisten perinteiden läpivalaisua ja oleellisten arvojen näkemistä. Pluto edustaa maanalista jumaluutta ja ihmiskollektiivin halua käydä läpi kiirastulia. Jousimiehessä se saattaa tuoda länsimaisen kansallisaatteen kriittiseen vaiheeseen. Sulautuminen (Pluto) vaatii kansallisen itsekkyyden (Jousimies) vähentämistä, luopumista omista rajoista.  ·   Suomi Euroopan syrjämaana on kehityksen jälkijunassa ja kaikki yllämainittu tullee myöhästyneenä, lieventyneenä ja muuntuneena - kuten aina. Siitä huolimatta kehitys vie vääjäämättä kohti suurempaa Euroopan liittovaltiota, josta on jo kauan haaveiltu ja Suomikin liittyy yhä tiukemmin kaupallisin ja tietoverkkojen luomien siteiden kautta maailmaan. Tämä kehityskulku on jo tapahtunut ja tulee jatkumaan – näin voi sanoa täysin ilman astrologiaakin.

March 29, 2007
Intellectual insights resulting from information you may have received long ago could surface today, due to Pluto moving retrograde. You might wonder at this, but you must remember that information, even if you don't use it, is not static within your mind. Your brain is still processing it, even on an unconscious level. Therefore you might come up with a few new ideas that resurrect an old interest that you may have shelved. This is no less interesting because of that.

*Vai voi se Plutokin perääntyä. Mietinkin miksi muistan äkkiä pois painetun menneen niin elävästi, kaiken mitä on tehty tiettyjen ihmisten kanssa, ja voisiko luottamus palata vielä. Toisaalta aika on mennyt ohi, kaikkia ihmisiä ei kaipaa. En haluaisi ajatella, että siksi koska heillä ei ole henkisiä arvoja, mutta kuitenkin. Voihan sitä mietiskellä vielä.

En tiedä, tajusinko kaikkea englannintaidollani. Ja koskiko alkuosa jousimiehiä, mutta mulla on ainakin elämä menossa uusiksi täysin ja kaikkea moskaa saanut läpikäydä. Pitkä suhde loppusuoralla aivan hetkessä ja lasten kanssa melkeinpä tyhjän päältä lähdettävä rakentamaan uutta elämää. Mitä lie töistä sanoo tuo horoskooppi. Työtä tarvitsisin kipeästi ja siihen tarvitsen onnenpotkun työkokemuksellani....Ja kovaa luopumisen aikaa...rakkaat eläimet...työn saannista ja kaikesta riippuen siinä ja siinä, voinko pitää tai menetänkö nekin....Mutta surusta ja pelosta huolimatta nokka kohti tulevaisuutta....Ehkä uusi mahdollisuus siellä odottaa!

Minun osalta ainakin stemmas just nappiin tuo pluton transiitti 1995-2008 - juttu mitä härästa sanotiin mainitulla sivulla.

Että semmost.

Oh my god...tätäkö nämä kaikki vuodet on olleet??!!  :o


Gemini: May 21 - June 20

One-to-One relationships are in the spotlight during the coming years, while Pluto occupies your 7th House. Your views on marriage, partnerships, and people in general change during this thirteen year transit. If you are looking fro intimate companions or a partner for marriage or business purposes, take time to really get to know the person before linking your fate.

Your life will be transformed through a close encounter with another person. The relationships affected include your marriage or any other close relationship, partnerships in business, encounters with enemies or with people whom you consult such as parents, lawyers, doctors, accountants, psychiatrists and any other one-on-one relationships.

It is important to avoid power struggles with enemies at this time. They are likely to become extremely nasty and destructive. If you do become involved with such a conflict, expect your opponent to use every sneaky device in the book to thwart you. Do not respond in kind as you will not be very successful.

It is time to free yourself from emotional dependence on other people. Your newfound strength may precipitate breakups or cause dramatic changes within current relationships. If you are in a partnership, you may experience a cataclysmic loss or shift within the alliance. This forces you to seek answers within yourself instead of leaning on someone else. Developments force you to realize that your sense of meaning and reason for living are not embodied in another person. Stop attributing everything that happens to you, good or bad, to other people and begin to recognize that you trigger these encounters by subtle unconscious clues. When you learn this you will receive the real understanding of your life that this transit is intended to convey. Look within.

By the end of 2008 you will be completely changed and your relationships will reflect the new you. Many of you will marry or enter a committed relationship during this transit. Others will divorce or lose a mate through death or desertion. Some of you may experience a combination of these events, such as marriage, divorce and another marriage. This will be an interesting transit for you, to put it mildly.

Tuli mieleen muuten onko kukaan joukkari saanut suoranaisesti valtaa enemmän Plutoaikana???

Tässä tällaista mitä Pluto tekee Venukselle..

Unwelcome changes   
At its best this influence can signify intense emotional experiences within a relationship that draw you in and change your consciousness for a time. But there is also a difficult side to this influence. You may become aware of changes occurring in a relationship to which you will be forced to accommodate. They cannot be ignored, because a real breakdown in your relationship would result. In itself change is not a bad thing. But we crave stability above all else in our relationships, and stability is not available at this time. It will do no good to pretend that change is not happening. Every relationship needs to grow in order to remain healthy and alive. Resist the desire to use subversive tactics to control your loved one, such as manipulating feelings of guilt or responsibility.

The interpretation above is for your transit selected for today:
Venus Square Pluto VenusSquarePluto, exact at 22:02 [more information]
activity period from 30 April 2007 to 2 May 2007.

En tieda muista Jousimiehista, mutta oma poikani on valkkynyt jo yli vuoden business tasolla hyvin menestyksellisesti vaikka han on vasta 20 vuotias. Joskus ihmettelen hanen liikemiesvaistoa ja ideoita mista ne oikein tulee(24.11.1986)
Han on viela armeijassa, jarjesti siela asiat niin etta saa ilmaisen koulutuksen microsoft ja pyorittaa omaa pienta businesta jossa raha tulee itsekseen, saa ihmelomia ja tekee matkoja, mutta toisaalta hanelta loytyy energiaa vaikka mihin.  :idiot2:

Aivan mahtavaa!
Mulla Pluto 5. huoneessa noin ensimmäisestä tiineyteni alusta astikka.
Olen siis todella harjoittanut luovuutta lapsineni  ;D

Ja nyt, kun olen justiinsa valmistumassa, Pluto suotuisasti siirtyy 6. huoneeseen; työ ja terveys -
voisiko vakuuttavampaa vahvistusta olla just tämän opiskelemani alan (homeopatia), ja yksityisyrittäjäksi
ryhtymisen oikeellisuudesta just nyt!