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« Vastaus #30 : 22.04.2010 22:56:18 »

Tuli mieleen tuosta KV:n tekstistä, että on aika jännä ajatella, että haluaako elää uudestaan tämän elämän jälkeen. Minusta kyllä itsestäni vahvasti tuntuu, että haluan palailla katselemaan tätä maailmanmenoa vielä pitkään sen jälkeenkin kun en sitä enää kehitykseni kannalta tarvitsisi. Tai no tällä hetkellä ainakin koen mielenkiintoisena asiana maailmassa sen, että nyt olisi oikeasti aika ruveta toimimaan sen totutun kaavan ulkopuolelta, jotta saataisiin kehitystä eteenpäin. Täytyisi oppia käyttämään sitä ihmisyyden yhtä parhaista piirteistä, nimittäin positiivista luovuutta. Ehkä haluaisin nähdä vaikkakin vain sivustakatsojana ihmisten toimivan parhaimman mahdollisen potentiaalinsa mukaisesti. =)

Mutta huomautan toki, että en pidä itseäni mitenkään erityisen henkisesti pitkälle ehtineenä, joten vaikka en haluaisikaan uudelleensyntyä, niin eiköhän tänne ole pakko palata, jos en nyt vallan hurjaksi heittäydy. =D
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« Vastaus #31 : 23.04.2010 08:28:41 »

moni tällainen kanavoitu kirja koettaa saada ihmisiä muottiin, eikö? on yrityksiä määritellä, no siksi en oikein voi kategorisoida itseäni. monessa kohdassa olisin voinut rastia ruutuun monta roolia. vilkaisenpa vielä mitä Seth opettaa.

 INSPIRATION      SERVER
+Service
-Bondage         PRIEST
+Compassion
-Zeal
EXPRESSION    ARTISAN
+Creation
-Artifice         SAGE
+Expression
-Oration

ACTION
   WARRIOR
+Persuasion
-Coercion         KING
+Mastery
-Tranny
ASSIMILATION         

SCHOLAR
+Knowledge
-Theory
   

My profession of choice might be as actor, dancer, fine artist, surgeon, fashion model, carpenter, contractor, mechanic, designer, craftsman, architect, inventor, musician, writer, poet.

My profession of choice might be as businessman, entrepreneur, foreman, manager, police officer, fireman, lawyer, soldier, prison guard, athlete, construction worker, bouncer.

My profession of choice might be as a scientist, writer, college professor, historian, philosopher. I am    naturally attracted to the information professions, and the information highway via the Internet is something I soak up like a sponge.

My choice of profession might be as actor (especially on stage), teacher, writer, salesperson, politician, TV announcer, public spokesman, psychic, comedian.

My choice of profession might be as head of country; CEO of corporation; film producer; military commander; entrepreneur; investor; economist; bank manager; symphony conductor; football coach; bartender; or anything else that requires a supervisory or problem-solving role.

The Goal of Growth
+ Comprehension
– Confusion    40% of the
population    Inspiration

The Cardinal Inspiration Goal is Growth, and it is the optimistic Goal. This is a difficult Goal for the person who has it do deal with. It causes him to always want more, better, higher, greater. It causes discontent and unrest, what I call the "greener pastures" syndrome. He is never quite satisfied with the present situation. To some extent this can be said about all the Goals, since the nature of a Goal is such that one never fully achieves it. It is true of Growth in the sense that the person who has it is never satisfied to "leave well enough alone". He is always demanding so much of himself. Often he takes more upon himself than he can possibly handle. He likes feeling pushed to the limit of his capacity and beyond with challenging situations and relationships. The person in Growth does not want to let any opportunity slip by. Every life event is seen as a chance for further experience. He feels that the biggest sin one can commit is to not fulfill one's uttermost potential. All talents must be developed. Every situation must be explored. To a person in Growth, the world is a realm of never ending variety. He gets bored easily if there is not an unending stream of new experiences. The more that is happening, the more he is fulfilled. He thrives on challenging situations where many things are happening at once. Circumstances that others might find tumultuous, he finds stimulating. He "has his fingers in many pies" at once. He delights in juggling the numerous activities in which he is involved. He likes to be "in the thick of things."

Growth is the Complement of Reevaluation (Reduction). In other words, each avoids what the other seeks. People in Growth are normally very open about themselves. This is the opposite of -Withdrawal in the Complementary Reduction Goal. People in Growth have nothing to hide. Their lives are an open book -- they want to reveal themselves. They are not mysterious. They like to have people around — "the more the merrier". They are usually very gregarious and have no trouble revealing intimate things about themselves. If someone does not reciprocate by also "letting it all hang out", this is frustrating to them. They are uncomfortable with people who cannot openly and freely express themselves. Quite unlike people in -Withdrawal, they have a desire for an intense intimacy, even to the point of being nosy and prying. People in Growth want everything. People in Reevaluation (Reduction) want only what is truly necessary, and ignore the rest. Both Growth and Reduction, being Aspects of the Inspiration Processes, are concerned with values: Growth values everything — it is unlimited in its scope of quality. On the other hand, Reevaluation values only the necessary — it is very limited. People in Growth often feel that their lives are too restricted, and this is uncomfortable to them. They avail themselves of every opportunity for progress.

The Growth Goal and the Passion Mode are the Counterparts of each other. The Passion Mode has what the Growth Goal seeks — an uninhibited approach to life. The difference between the two is that a person in Passion behaves as if every wonderful experience resided within him already, so he has no need to seek this in the outer world as does the person in Growth.

The original name of the Positive Pole of this Goal is "comprehension". I do not think this meant intellectual understanding, since that is Ordinal Expression, and Growth is Cardinal Inspiration. I think the intention is the noun form of the adjective "comprehensive", meaning "all-inclusive" or "wide in scope". People in this Pole are interested in everything, and they want to get acquainted and involved with everything. They want to embrace everything, and become on familiar terms with it.

In order to avoid possible misunderstanding of this Pole as having to do with mental considerations, I enjoy using "+Unfoldment" rather than "comprehension."  The meaning here is that a person in this Pole seeks personal development, evolution, revelation and intimacy in himself and in others and in the world. He wants things to be out in the open, in plain sight. He wants his experiences to be developed to their greatest potential, to their highest state, to the maximum degree. Such a person tends to be a gregarious extrovert.

The Negative Pole is -Confusion, which often results when the person in Growth tries to take too much upon himself or do too much at once. The seeking of challenging complications has degenerated into chaos. He has become prolific to the point of being wasteful. In the -Confused state, he still pushes for interesting experiences, but he is not sure where to push because he is bewildered. He gropes along with a hit-and-miss method that reveals his perplexity. He often mistakes intricacy or complexity for progress. He is disorganized, and feels befuddled, and confounded. His energy is scattered; he is disoriented, and his head is spinning.

Life presents a person with many and diverse opportunities, and it is quite impossible to fulfill them all. One simply cannot explore every avenue that is presented. If one tries to, he will not be able to concentrate on the most important matters at hand. The result of this can be the Negative Pole of -Confusion. The way to get out of this -Confusion is to consider the Positive Pole of the Complementary Goal of Reduction, which is +Efficiency. Make a priority list. Focus the attention on just one thing and apply your energy to it. There are so many things in the world that can distract one's focus of attention. It takes a concentrated effort for a person in Growth to set priorities because everything is important to him. He wants to experience it all. As a consequence, he may flit about from item to item, from one concern to another, without lingering on one thing long enough to fully appreciate it. This is not the most effective way to promote growth. To get out of -Confusion, people must realistically evaluate what needs to be done by comparing the relative merits of the items they seek to experience. at a time. People with this Goal often pare down their options so they can concentrate on one thing. They seek continually to narrow their range of involvements. They want situations such that they can cope with them easily and without stress and confusion. They avoid circumstances that are demanding or intrusive.

-- Phil Wittmeyer
 

Growth, at forty percent of the population, and acceptance, at thirty percent, are the two most popular goals. Growth is a state of movement, of seeking new experiences, new stimuli to which to respond. To move, we must be unbalanced. When we walk, most of the time, we are “falling” forward. Acceptance is a state of stillness and balance, being peaceful about what happens. People in growth tend to be in motion, and those in acceptance tend to “plunk down.” I would imagine, for example, that adult education classes are filled with people in growth, who tend to be busy and continually trying to learn something. I am in acceptance, and I don’t have much motivation to go out and do those types of things. I probably feel over stimulated more easily than those in growth. Still, those in growth can become over stimulated and, as a result, go into the negative pole, confusion.

-- Shepherd Hoodwin
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« Vastaus #32 : 23.04.2010 09:05:18 »

Oikeastaan juurikin tuo kategorisoiminen on itseäni hiukan kammoksuttanut. Tai no, en itse haluaisi kokea olevani määriteltävissä minkään raamien sisään, vai onko tämäkin sitten sitä egoismia? Ehkä jollain tapaa koen, että tälläiset määritelmät voivat toimia ohjenuorina millaiseen käytökseen ja toimintaan tulisi pyrkiä, mutta en usko niiden aukottomasti määrittävän meidän sielujamme. Jos itsensä ahtaa raameihin, niin mitä tapahtuu sille osalle, joka jää niiden ulkopuolelle. Luultavasti emme silloin kuuntele niitä ääniä, jotka eivät pieniin laatikoihimme sovi ja osa persoonallista potentiaaliamme jää käyttämättä.

Mutta toisaalta voihan olla, että näitä raameja ei ole edes niin tiukoiksi tarkoitettu ja ne vain näiden tekstien välityksellä siltä vaikuttavat.
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« Vastaus #33 : 23.04.2010 09:11:33 »

no jos tutustuu 50 eri tyypin kanavointeihin ja koettaa löytää jonkun kategorian niin huh. ne kaikki väittää tietävänsä Jumalasta. veikkaisin että yksinkertaisuus on valttia.
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« Vastaus #34 : 23.04.2010 09:16:11 »

No ehkä ne onkin sitten tarkoitus lukea kokonaisuutena, että ei liikaa jumitu siihen yhteen kanavoitavaan. =D Noh, en kyllä tiedä. Aikamoista sokkeloa nämä kanavoinnit tuntuvat olevan ja en ole edes varma pidänkö mitään lähdettä nyt niin aukottomana, että siihen uskoani valuttaisin. Lähinnä näitä tuntuu olevan mukavaa lukea kuten mitä tahansa filosofista tekstiä, ajatuksia herättävinä ja pohdintaan inspiroivina.
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« Vastaus #35 : 23.04.2010 09:55:46 »

Minua häiritsee noissa sielunikäasioissa se, että ne ovat hyvin vahvasti yhteydessä meidän ihmiskunnan tämänhetkiseen aikakäsitykseen. Ehkä koska näemme ajan hyvin lineaarisesti niin myös tämä sielunikä nähdään samoin. Pitäisi itseasiassa enemmän perehtyä aika ja avaruusteemaan noin tieteenkin kannalta, voisi valaista tätäkin asiaa kummasti. Jos ajan oppisi näkemään sen kausaliteetin ulkopuolelta niin luultavasti pystyisi ymmärtämään nämäkin asiast objektiivisemmin tai no eikös kaikki ole kuitenkin subjektiivista loppupeleissä.
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« Vastaus #36 : 23.04.2010 09:56:56 »

heheh

Jelaila Starrilla oli jo näkemys, että aiemmat Luojat oli jo luoneet aiemmat Universumit valmiiksi ja tämä sitten luotiin vielä leikiksi päälle. niinkuin seuraavatkin Universumit! niin että koska aloimme ja koska lopuimme= hyvä kysymys.

Cheesy  smitten
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« Vastaus #37 : 23.04.2010 10:10:27 »

Aika rajallisesti pystymme käsittämään mitään, joten tuskin voidaan sanoa, että alamme jostain ja päätymme johonkin. Eikös kaikki ole vain sitä kiertokulkua. Tosin ihmismielelle on erittäin vaikeaa käsittää, että joku olisi ollut aina olemassa, sillä olemme niin tottuneita katsomaan maailmaa aloituksista lopetuksiin, syntymästä kuolemaan.
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