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[^^Queen Nefertiti^^]

Miesjohtoisissa uskonnoissa ainakin tapetaan, en ole aivan varma jumalatarkulteista, niissä on naiset saattaneet laittaa miehiä sotaan..

http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/11.07/13-feminism.html

http://www.newint.org/issue155/gateway.htm

http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/religion/judaism-islam-xtianity-and-women/

Today orthodox Jewish women are still excluded from the praying community and seated behind a screen. Roman Catholic and Protestant women who want to serve the bread and wine are asked instead to serve church suppers. Women in every congregation still hear such phrases as ‘God our father’, ‘sons of God’, ‘men of God’, and ’the brotherhood of man.

In this patriarchal theology, writes American feminist Rosemary Ruether: ‘The male is taken to be the normative representative of the human species, the norm for imaging God and for defining anthropology, sin, redemption and ministry.’ The female, in contrast, is seen as ‘subordinate and auxiliary to the male.


"I try to live with a feminist head and a Jewish heart," she concluded.

Religion on her own terms

Azizah al-Hibri, president of Karamah: Muslim Women Lawyers for Human Rights, received a rigorous education in the Quran and classical Arabic at home in Lebanon that mirrored Pogrebin's Jewish foundation. But life led her to the United States, to Marxism, to Malcolm X, to civil rights, and to feminism. Islam slipped away.

https://amananta.wordpress.com/2006/07/21/feminism-racism-religion-ethnocentrism-war-peace/

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011217/willis

http://www.wworld.org/archive/archive.asp?ID=184

[Riitta]

En usko mihinkaan uskontoon vain loogiseen ajatteluun ja omaan inhimmillisyyteen.
Olen taalla ihan tavallisen ihmisen kanssa naimisissa ja rakastan tata maata ja kansaa, kuten niin monia muitakin valittomia ja iloisia ihmisia monestakin maasta.
Meilla on ystavia niin arabien, juutalaisten ja kristittyjen kanssa, emme yleensa puhu politiikkaa vaan pidamme ystavat ystavina rotuun tai ihonvariin katsomatta ja olen huomannut etta ihan hyvin tullaan toimeen.
Edelleen rauhaa ja rakkautta koko maailmalle 
Diamond

[Riitta]

Taisi alunperin, mutta se vain lisasi laajempaa rakkautta ja inhimmillisyytta.

[Ippuska]

En usko mihinkaan uskontoon vain loogiseen ajatteluun ja omaan inhimmillisyyteen.
Olen taalla ihan tavallisen ihmisen kanssa naimisissa ja rakastan tata maata ja kansaa, kuten niin monia muitakin valittomia ja iloisia ihmisia monestakin maasta.
Meilla on ystavia niin arabien, juutalaisten ja kristittyjen kanssa, emme yleensa puhu politiikkaa vaan pidamme ystavat ystavina rotuun tai ihonvariin katsomatta ja olen huomannut etta ihan hyvin tullaan toimeen.
Edelleen rauhaa ja rakkautta koko maailmalle 
Diamond

Se kyllä välittyy sanoistasi, tuo globaali ja universaali Rakkaus 

[sawotar]

Voi kun sen kaikki ymmärtäisi, niin maailma muuttus paremmaksi paikaksi elää  kostonkierre ei lopu koskaan, jos joku ei nöyrry ja tee siitä loppua jonkun itsekkyyden takia kärsii turhankin moni pystymättä vaikuttamaan asioihin

*lähetän miljoona enkelipalloa sota alueelle rauhan aikaan saamiseksi* 

[Riitta]

Niimpa, kosto lisaa kostoa, viha lisaa vihaa, toisaalta rakkauteen kuuluu myos noytyminen, elaman kouluahan me vaan taalla kaikki opettelemme 
Diamond
 

[^^Queen Nefertiti^^]

Varsinkin Hezbollah ja muut partasuuporukat--

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/20/nasrallah.interview/index.html

http://www.knesset.gov.il/president/epres_page.htm

Oh kaikilla ei olekaan partaa.


The Israeli military said Wednesday that it dropped 23 tons of bombs on a bunker housing Hezbollah senior leadership. On Thursday, the military said it estimated that its days of attacks had destroyed about half of Hezbollah's military assets.

Both claims are false, Nasrallah said.

"They are unable, up until this moment, to do anything to harm us, and I assure you of that," he said. "Hezbollah has stood fast and absorbed the strike and now is going to initiate and will deliver surprises that it promises. We keep other things for ourselves that we'll do later on."

Islam (Arabic: ?; al-isla-m listen (help·info)) is a monotheistic religion based upon the Qur'an, which adherents believe was sent by God through Muhammad. Followers of Islam, known as Muslims (Arabic: ?), believe Muhammad to have been God's (Arabic: Alla-h) final prophet; most of them see the historic record of the actions and teachings of Muhammad related in the Hadith as indispensable tools for interpreting the Qur'an.

Like Judaism and Christianity, Islam is considered an Abrahamic religion. With a total of approximately 1.4 billion adherents, Islam is the second-largest religion in the world.

[^^Queen Nefertiti^^]

Selvitetään nyt sitten vielä Abraham-uskontojen ja jumalatarkulttien välistä eroa..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religion

PATRIARKKA- ELI MIESUSKONNOT. Sekä Islam että juutalaisuus että kristinusko.-

In the study of comparative religion, an Abrahamic religion is any of those religions deriving from a common ancient Semitic tradition and traced by their adherents to Abraham ("Father/Leader of many" Hebrew Arabic ?), a patriarch whose life is narrated in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, and as a prophet in the Qur'an and also called a prophet in Genesis 20:7.

NAISJUMALATAR.

The Goddess concept is advocated by modern matriarchs and pantheists as a female version of, or analogue to God, (i.e., the Abrahamic god) who in feminist and other circles is perceived as being rooted in patriarchal concept of dominance— to the exclusion of feminine concepts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddess


Magna Dea
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Magna Dea is Latin for "Great Goddess" and can refer to any major goddess worshipped during the Roman Republic or Roman Empire. Magna Dea could be applied to a goddess at the head of a pantheon, such as Juno or Minerva, or a goddess worshipped monotheistically. The term "Great Goddess" itself can refer to a mother goddess in contemporary Neopagan and Wiccan religions.

Qenna
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In Ancient Egyptian religion, Qenna was the goddess of matter that has been revivified.

The Lady
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    For the Discworld character, see Discworld gods.

In the Wicca, Witchcraft, The Craft, and other neo-pagan religions, The Lady is the Earth goddess along with The Lord. They are also known as The God (or the Horned God and The Goddess.

Covenant of the Goddess
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The Covenant of the Goddess (sometimes abbreviated CoG) is one of the oldest and largest cross-traditional groups among Wiccans and neopagans. It was organized on October 31, 1975 (Samhain or Halloween)[1], and is currently composed of over one hundred Wiccan covens[citation needed], plus solitary elders and associates. As expected from the name, member covens must be either Dianic Wiccan or have a focus on both the God and the Goddess[2].

The group, which maintains strict autonomy for all members, publishes a newsletter eight times a year for members, organizes and sponsors an annual festival called "Merry Meet"[3], and issues ministerial credentials[4]. The group operates largely by consensus.

Chakreshvari is the shasan-devi of Lord Rishabha, the first Tirthankara.

Goddess Chakreshvari is shown with a chakra in one of her hands.

In Punjab, at village Attewali there is a famous temple of Goddess Chakreshvari. She is the patron deity of the Khandelwal Jain community.

The Hebrew Goddess (ISBN 0-8143-2271-9) is a 1967 book by Jewish historian and anthropologist Raphael Patai. In this book, Patai argues that the Jewish religion has historically had elements of polytheism, above all in the worship of goddesses and a cult of the mother goddess. The book uses a combination of archaeological and textual evidence for veneration of feminine beings. Hebrew "goddesses" identified in the book include Asherah, Lilith, the cherubim in Solomon's Temple, and the Shekhina.

Niin, kristitty kirkko ei ainakaan pidä noidista ja pakanoista.. uskonto, valta, sota.. da Vinci koodi..

[Asterix]

Sota on sotaa ja sitä käydään ennenkaikkea mediassa.
En koskaan luota kenenkään sodassa olevan osapuolen uutisointiin,
koska se pyrkii maalaamaan omista toimista paremman kuvan ja syyllistämään vastapuolta.
Se ei ole koskaan totuudenmukaista
ja se sinun Diamond tulisi ottaa huomioon
tässä sodassa Lebanonia vastaan,
jossa USA on Israelin liittolainen.

Tälläistäkö uutisointia sinä katsot ja luot mielipiteesi?

http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/200608024949164_uu.shtml


Se, mitä Diamond en ymmärrä sinussa on se,
että yhdessä topicissa (Kaalot) sinä huudat rotusortoa vastaan
ja rakkautta, suvaitsevaisuutta ja rauhaa
ja tässä topicissa sinä väität vailla mitään eksanttia tietoa
ja todellisuuspohjaa, mm. että Hizbollah ja Lebanonilaiset
maksavat perheille lasten uhraamisesta
ja vailla mitään eksanttia tietoa, panettelet ja syytät
näitä ihmisiä mitä hirveimmistä ihmisoikeusrikoksista.

Huomaatkos jonkinlaista ristiriitaa..?

Virallinen facta tällä hetkellä on, että ainoa osapuoli,
josta on raportoitu syyllistyneen siviilien,
naisten ja lapsien ja ulkopuolisten tappamiseen on Israel.

Hizbollah on pidättäytynyt Israelin armeijan sotilaiden
tuhoamisessa. Israelilais siiviilit, kuten sinä Diamond,
olette saaneet olla täysin ulkopuolella poliittisista
taistoista.

Toinen varsin silmiinpistävä juttu sinun kirjoituksistasi,
joista suorastaan huokuu asiantuntemus Tel Avivin rannoilta;

Voi Asterix kulta
Ei ole parista terrorista kyse, vaan 6000 hyvin koulutettua huippusotilasta=koulutus on saatu Iranissa

Kasittaakseni Hispallan sotilaita on vankina jo reippaasti toista tuhatta elavia, ja kuoleiden maaraa en tieda, mutta muutama kymmenen oli muutama paiva sitten ja tanaan 40.

Onneksi olkoon Diamond! Olet juuri lopettanut sodan!
Merkittävä osa Hizbollahin vahvuudesta on lyöty!

Mennäänpä sitten päivän uutisiin;

"Israel laajentaa maahyökkäystään Etelä-Libanonissa.
Hallituksen edustajan mukaan armeija ulottaa hyökkäyksensä jopa 30 kilometrin päähän rajasta.
Toiset poliittiset lähteet ovat puhuneet 6-7 kilometristä.
Maahyökkäyksen laajennuksesta päätti yöllä Israelin hallitus.
Armeijan radio kertoi, että palvelukseen kutsutaan lisää reserviläisiä.
Joukot vahvistuvat noin 15 000 sotilaalla.

- Tulitaukoa ei tule lähipäivinä, sanoi pääministeri Ehud Olmert.
"
http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/200608014944425_uu.shtml

Ja kaikki tämä 6000 Hizbollah sotilaan vuoksi? 
Sallinet, jos epäilen.



Tietoa Hizbollah järjestöstä;

Hizbollah (arab. ‮حزب الله‬, hizbu' llāh eli Jumalan puolue) on poliittinen
ja sotilaallinen libanonilaisten shiiamuslimien järjestö ja puolue,
joka perustettiin vuonna 1982 Libanonissa
vastustamaan eteläistä Libanonia miehittäneitä Israelin joukkoja.
Israel, Yhdysvallat ja Kanada luokittelevat Hizbollahin terroristijärjestöksi,
mutta esim. Euroopan unioni ei näin tee.

Hizbollah-järjestö luotiin vastustamaan Israelin invaasiota Libanoniin
sekä Israelin myöhempää Libanonin eteläosien miehitystä.
Libanonilaisten apuna oli Iranin lähettämiä vallankumouskaartilaisia,
joiden läsnäolo oli mahdollista Syyrian myötämielisyyden ansiosta.

http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizbollah

Jos unohdatte nyt kaiken uskonnollisen hevon jutun Israelin siunaamisesta,
niin facta on se, että Israel on hyökännyt vähän väliä koko lyhyen historiansa aikana Lebanoniin,
koska se on pyrkinyt laajentumaan alueellisesti.

Onko ihme, että tälläisiä järjestöjä tällöin syntyy?

Vertaa; 2.maailman sodassa Hitleriä ja Saksaa vastaan toimi
ns. maanalaisia armeijoita, jotka luokiteltiin terroristeiksi aikoinaan
ja heidän toimintansa ja tapansa tuomittiin ankarasti ja heitä pyrittiin likviditoimaan.
 

[^^Queen Nefertiti^^]

Juutalaiset omistavat paljon mediaa ja viihdeteollisuutta.. independent tiedotus on tärkeää ja vaikea löytää, joskus. Varsinkin kun törmäsin väitteeseen että Mestarienkin tekstit olisivat saatanallista keksintöä. Yritä sitten ottaa selko tän planeetan sotkuista ja vaikuttavista voimista.

[Riitta]

JEP
En panettele, mutta jokaiset keraavat omat tietolahteet.Esim:Sky news on brittilainen, entas CNN??

[^^Queen Nefertiti^^]

http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/churchfires.html

This is the Cosmic Struggle between Spirit and Matter: God will be Immanent; Matter will resist. This is the conflict between God (the view that man is unfinished, and dependent on Divine revelation) and Lucifer (man is already god.)

http://www.savethemales.ca/211002.html

The Rothschilds were considered the leaders of the Jews but I don't know if the Jews knew the Rothschilds were Satanists.

Some things we can do: 1) boycott the mass media; 2) "out" politicians, teachers and media figures who are pushing the freemason agenda; 3) refuse to hate other people or fight other countries; 4) celebrate the things the Masons hate -- nationhood (internationalism causes war) heterosexual identities, nuclear families, Christianity and God.

No en toista tätä enää mutta.

 The Illuminati conspiracy holds, in part, that large Jewish banking families have been orchestrating various political revolutions and machinations throughout Europe and America since the late eighteenth century, with the ultimate aim of bringing about a satanic New World Order.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/conspiracy.html

http://www.radiobergen.org/chamish/misery.htm

[Asterix]

Juutalaiset omistavat paljon mediaa ja viihdeteollisuutta.. independent tiedotus on tärkeää ja vaikea löytää, joskus.

I agree, mutta eksanttia tietoa on mahdollista saada,
jos vain näkee sen vaivan.
Monet ulkopuoliset maat ja järjestöt lähettävät
omia tarkkailijoita ja raportoijia paikan päälle,
kuten myös monien maiden uutisryhmät.

Ja mitä enemmän on tietoa puolin ja toisin, niin sen paremmin
tilanteen pystyy hahmottamaan ja pyrkiä saamaan kaikkia osapuolia
tyydyttävä ratkaisu aikaiseksi.

Jos tässä yritettäisiin saada sovinto aikaan seuraamalla
amerikkalaisia ja Israelilaisia tv -ja radiokanavia ja muuta uutisointia,
niin vielä enemmän nesteessä oltaisiin korviamme myöden.

PS. Infoa Tel Avivin rannoille, Sky News:n omistajia ja osakkaita ovat muutamat isot amerikkalaismediatalot ja CNN on kokonaan amerikkalainen
yhtiö. 
 

[^^Queen Nefertiti^^]

Mutta ennen kaikkea pitää tietää, onko kaiken takana jokin aineeton voima vai ei. Ja aikooko Jumala jollain tavalla puuttua asiaan, kun nyt kyseessä on olevinaan uskonsotakin.

Arabit ja kristityt >< juutalaiset ja satanisti "kristityt"?

Vai arabit >< kristityt myöskin?

ja mitä tekee jumalatar. Ja ovatko miljoonat hindulaiset aivan eri veneessä. Tosin itäänkin tulossa näitä ydinaseita.. ja sielläkin aina kahakoitu. Jos sota on Lähi-Idässä ja terrorismia Usassa+hiukan muuallakin, onko se vielä maailmansota.

Earth changes. sorry vaan tämä englanti.

by Carl Johan Calleman

The Current Situation

We are now approaching the Fifth day, beginning on November 24, 2006, and the ensuing energies of Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca of the Galactic Underworld. These energies are likely to generate the chaos from which the new world of oneness will be born as we come to the completion of all the Underworlds by October 28, 2011.

As I wrote in the article posted on my web site in November of last year, the first half of the Fourth night, November 29, 2005 to May 27, 2006, would be a relatively uneventful time that would be well suited for integration of what had happened in the preceding Fourth day. For the second half of this night, May 28 – November 24, 2006, the time period that we are in now, I however forecasted that new events would be occurring that prepared for the change that would be brought by the Breakthrough energy of the Fifth day. Using comparisons I pointed to the example, among others, of how the Russian revolution of 1905, shortly after the midpoint of the Fourth night of the Planetary Underworld, heralded the fall of the autocratic empires (including the Russian) that came about as a result of World War I after the breakthrough energy of Quetzalcoatl set in in this Underworld in 1913.

In our current Galactic Underworld we are now at a time corresponding to 1905-1906 in the Planetary (see figure), and it seems obvious that the relatively calm time for integration is over. Instead, in the past few weeks we have witnessed things that very likely herald the tumultuous era that will follow as the breakthrough energy sets in with the Fifth day. I feel I have been very accurate in forecasting this basic rhythm of the evolution of the current year and you may take note that this would not have been possible without using a correct end date, October 28, 2011.

I would like to add here that the Mayan calendar does not say that in a certain time period this or that will happen in concrete terms. What we have in order to help us predict the future are Underworlds – predetermined sequences of energies that play out according to exact schedules. However, the predictions are conditioned by the intuition and background of the person who makes them. Thus, I recommend that you evaluate the reliability of predictions said to be based on the Mayan calendar by seeing how accurate the person making them has been in the past. Those who claim that the Mayan calendar ends December 21, 2012, however usually do not even put themselves to the test. What prophetic value does the Mayan calendar then have?

As signs of the intensification of the course of events the past week or so we have thus seen a tsunami, a report of a record number of killings in Iraq, a resurgence of Taliban fighting, missile tests in North Korea, bombings in Mumbai, a record oil price and a G- 8 meeting in St Petersburg pointing to the return of Russia as a major power. Above all, however, Israel has attacked Lebanon, to destroy bases of the Hizbollah, a Muslim group supported by Syria and especially Iran. As I have said in my books the Galactic Underworld is the Apocalypse and there is little reason to expect its course of events to be smooth or unproblematic. It is virtually impossible to imagine a step- by-step process from the present world to oneness.

Israel

As we approach the Fifth day of the Galactic Underworld it then obviously becomes very important to understand the role of Israel. Why, we may wonder, does this country play such a significant role to some of the world religions? Why do the Jews see themselves as a people chosen by God and why do also Christians say that things begin and end with Israel? Why is the Muslim negativity towards Israel so strong and why is Israel so adverse to compromises?

I think a big part of the explanation to this special role of Israel is that many very significant things in human evolution actually did have their origin there. Southwest Asia, including what is today Israel, was where the highest number of domesticable plants and animals existed that allowed humans early on to make the transition to agriculture and a settled life already about 10,000 years ago. Hence, people in this area had a tremendous head start in their cultural development and so it was for instance here that the alphabet was invented as a result of the pulse favoring the left brain in the Third day of the National Underworld. The alphabet, which is the first truly effective form of writing used by humans, was invented by the Jews and the Torah, their holy scripture, is the first book written by means of this, expressing the first monotheist creed of the planet. An enormous emphasis was placed on the written Word that was perceived as an exclusive message from God that was unchangeable. Writing and the concomitant monotheist creed brought about a significant shift in mentality and, since this was not immediately shared by the neighbors, a perception was created by the Jews that they were a people chosen by God.

When the Fifth day of the National Underworld began the Christian religion then had its origin in Israel. The majority of the Jews were however not attracted to this new religion, and following the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 they were dispersed from their country essentially in the Western direction. From the perspective of the Mayan calendar one might speculate that this latter historical event was actually propelled by the marked left brain abstract thinking of the Jews to which the West was more conducive. Regardless, their contributions to Western culture, and economic clout, have been disproportionately high, presumably because of the mentioned head start they had had into abstract left brain thinking.

Also the Quran, consecrated at the midpoint of the Fifth night in AD 632, traces an origin to Abraham and talks extensively about the Jews, whose prophets Moses and Jesus, it acknowledges as such. Yet, similarly to how the Christian church has considered the New Testament as more important than the Old, the Muslims regard the Quran as an all-encompassing supreme message from God.

Following a two thousand year Diaspora the state of Israel was then declared in 1948 thus fulfilling an age- old prophecy of the Jews. This was based on the United Nations partition plan for the British mandate of Palestine made in 1947 as the Fourth World of the Planetary Underworld began. In a broad sense the beginning of this Fourth World was what set the stage for the Galactic Underworld that we are in now and, ever since then, the area has been an area of contention with the neighboring Muslims.

End-time scenarios

Hence, while Jews have been praying three times a day for two thousand years for the restoration of the Temple in Jerusalem, the time has not yet been considered as ready for this. The main reason is that the Temple Mount in Jerusalem is occupied by the Muslim al- Aksa Mosque and this religion is guided by quite different prophecies, and another written Word, the Quran. The Jews fear that if a Temple would be built there it would create a Jihad from the entire Muslim world. To Muslims, who see the Quran as the last message from God and envision that the whole world will eventually be Muslim, it is instead a dictum that all land held by Islam should be kept and that land lost to it should be recovered. Hence, the prophecies of the two religions are in direct conflict.

Fundamentalist Christians, especially in the United States, are not indifferent to this conflict and in fact see the scenario playing out as verifying their own prophecies, which is part of the reason for the strong US backing of Israel. These groups expect the Jews to rebuild the temple following which there will be great tribulations that will lead the Jews to accept Jesus as the Messiah. The Muslims on their part expect the appearance of the twelfth imam, Mahdi, as a savior, as well as the return of Jesus, who will then lead the Christians to submit to Islam.

It would take a specialist to describe the various prophecies of Jews, Muslims and Christians and their different interpretations in detail. However, they all seem to include an end time scenario with a final battle (Armaggedon is the town of Megiddo in northern Israel, not very far from either Lebanon or Syria), an Antichrist (who in the Muslim variety is called Dajjal) and a Messiah (or returning Christ), who will rule for different time periods and set their marks on them. In the Christian Revelation this ends with the New Jerusalem, where there is no pain and no sorrow and the past will no longer be. Although the Mayan prophecies obviously do not describe a specific scenario for this part of the world, the Mayan calendar is based on energies such as that of Quetzalcoatl (god of light in the Fifth day) and Tezcatlipoca (god of darkness in Fifth night), which would be favorable to exactly such forces that the Abrahamitic religions prophesize about. In fact, in the time ahead the calendrical energies of the Galactic Underworld probably provide our best guide to know who will represent the future of oneness and who will not.